Discussion:
DO I or DON'T I....
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ChrisCoaster
2011-06-12 12:46:58 UTC
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. . . have this thing called Alzheimer's Disease - or at least the
early version of it?

It was 4pm one weekday and I brought up the possibility I might have
early Alzheimers to my cross-the-hall neighbor in my apt. bldg. I
listed some symptoms and he nearly blew a conniption. He seems so
insulted! Turns out he has a friend(relative?) with full-blown AD.
He pointed his finger at me and said "those things don't always mean
you have AD! My friend doesn't even know his/her own face in a
mirror!"

Needless to say we are still friends and have good conversations and
some lively political debates together.

So WHY do I think I have the early version??

1. Well, I'm a 41 1/2 y/o male. My memory pattern - PISS POOR in
the short term - daily to weekly, but incredibly VIVD with regards to
the dates, colors, and even smells of events 10, 30 years ago! My
supervisors at work are dying to be rid of me because I never seem to
remember or recall tasks they assign me, but thankfully their boss(and
mine by ext), has apparently been keeping them in line, presumably
behind closed doors.

2. I put down objects - keys, TV remotes, wireless remote keyboard
and mice we place in meeting rooms where I work, and I'm glancing all
around me where the HECK did I put such and such down. One of my
guardian angels(I call him that because he literally saves my ass
every time, good soul, only 25 years old!) grabs it or points to it -
usually right in front of me.

3. Names. After 3 years of working with mostly the same 5-6 guys at
my job, I'm still calling Robert David, and David, Ty. And so on.
There are four women in the office whose job is to book video-
conferences around the building. I'm always calling Liza Andrea, and
calling Wendy Isabel!

I could go on and on.

Basically, I've had every type of cognitive paper & pencil test done,
those "blotch" tests where you report what you think the ink stain
looks like. I've had advanced tests - MRIs, contrasting CAT scans,
blood tests. EEGs. And my brain and nervous system came back
NEGATIVE for anything out of ordinary.

Oh, and another big red flapping flag: My math skills are and always
have been abysmal. I can't count the number of chairs in our large
conference room, even if some of them are stacked in fours(for safety
any more than four will tip). I always get a different count! LOL.

And facial recognition? I've already been diagnosed as a milder case
of Asperger's(and wonder if that's tied in here somehow). I
absolutely cannot watch a serious movie(The Reader - Kate winslet)
(Inglorious Basterds - Pitt) because all the main faces blend
together!!

So people of this group... WHAT do you think is going on here? I can
actually tell you what responses I expect, so you know enough not to
furnish them:

"You're not concentrating hard enough". "Focus more!" "You're just
preoccupied, that's all".

I did NOT come here to hear those type of response. I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.

-ChrisCoaster
The "Coaster" signifies my hobby - I spend lots of time on them!
Evelyn
2011-06-12 16:26:40 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT), ChrisCoaster
Post by ChrisCoaster
. . . have this thing called Alzheimer's Disease - or at least the
early version of it?
It was 4pm one weekday and I brought up the possibility I might have
early Alzheimers to my cross-the-hall neighbor in my apt. bldg. I
listed some symptoms and he nearly blew a conniption. He seems so
insulted! Turns out he has a friend(relative?) with full-blown AD.
He pointed his finger at me and said "those things don't always mean
you have AD! My friend doesn't even know his/her own face in a
mirror!"
Needless to say we are still friends and have good conversations and
some lively political debates together.
So WHY do I think I have the early version??
1. Well, I'm a 41 1/2 y/o male. My memory pattern - PISS POOR in
the short term - daily to weekly, but incredibly VIVD with regards to
the dates, colors, and even smells of events 10, 30 years ago! My
supervisors at work are dying to be rid of me because I never seem to
remember or recall tasks they assign me, but thankfully their boss(and
mine by ext), has apparently been keeping them in line, presumably
behind closed doors.
2. I put down objects - keys, TV remotes, wireless remote keyboard
and mice we place in meeting rooms where I work, and I'm glancing all
around me where the HECK did I put such and such down. One of my
guardian angels(I call him that because he literally saves my ass
every time, good soul, only 25 years old!) grabs it or points to it -
usually right in front of me.
3. Names. After 3 years of working with mostly the same 5-6 guys at
my job, I'm still calling Robert David, and David, Ty. And so on.
There are four women in the office whose job is to book video-
conferences around the building. I'm always calling Liza Andrea, and
calling Wendy Isabel!
I could go on and on.
Basically, I've had every type of cognitive paper & pencil test done,
those "blotch" tests where you report what you think the ink stain
looks like. I've had advanced tests - MRIs, contrasting CAT scans,
blood tests. EEGs. And my brain and nervous system came back
NEGATIVE for anything out of ordinary.
Oh, and another big red flapping flag: My math skills are and always
have been abysmal. I can't count the number of chairs in our large
conference room, even if some of them are stacked in fours(for safety
any more than four will tip). I always get a different count! LOL.
And facial recognition? I've already been diagnosed as a milder case
of Asperger's(and wonder if that's tied in here somehow). I
absolutely cannot watch a serious movie(The Reader - Kate winslet)
(Inglorious Basterds - Pitt) because all the main faces blend
together!!
So people of this group... WHAT do you think is going on here? I can
actually tell you what responses I expect, so you know enough not to
"You're not concentrating hard enough". "Focus more!" "You're just
preoccupied, that's all".
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response. I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
-ChrisCoaster
The "Coaster" signifies my hobby - I spend lots of time on them!
Chris,

None of us is qualified to diagnose you. There could be something
wrong, or it is just that you are distracted and never having trained
yourself to be attentive to details. Or it is something else
altogether that hasn't been considered.

You say you have been for quite a few tests, which is what those of us
on this group would suggest ordinarily that you go and do.

Did they test for thyroid by the way? Thyroid problems are also
known to create difficulties with memory. How about your vitamin
B-12 levels? That is another thing which can cause this. How about
your blood sugar?

There are lots of medical conditions that can affect memory as a side
issue. Some of them are easy fixes.

So look into those areas too, if you haven't already..... but in the
meanwhile, I suggest that you develop some VERY good coping mechanisms
until you do know what it is. Carry around a note pad in your pocket
and keep a things to do reminder list. I do it on my computer,
deleting the things that are no longer relevant.

Use sticky notes. Get a wristwatch with an alarm. Whatever you
need to do to make sure you do the right things at the right times.

Good luck,

Evelyn
P***@aol.com
2011-06-24 13:39:16 UTC
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Post by Evelyn
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT), ChrisCoaster
Post by ChrisCoaster
. . . have this thing called Alzheimer's Disease - or at least the
early version of it?
It was 4pm one weekday and I brought up the possibility I might have
early Alzheimers to my cross-the-hall neighbor in my apt. bldg.  I
listed some symptoms and he nearly blew a conniption.  He seems so
insulted!  Turns out he has a friend(relative?) with full-blown AD.
He pointed his finger at me and said "those things don't always mean
you have AD!  My friend doesn't even know his/her own face in a
mirror!"
Needless to say we are still friends and have good conversations and
some lively political debates together.
So WHY do I think I have the early version??
1.  Well, I'm a 41 1/2 y/o male.   My memory pattern - PISS POOR in
the short term - daily to weekly, but incredibly VIVD with regards to
the dates, colors, and even smells of events 10, 30 years ago!  My
supervisors at work are dying to be rid of me because I never seem to
remember or recall tasks they assign me, but thankfully their boss(and
mine by ext), has apparently been keeping them in line, presumably
behind closed doors.
2.  I put down objects - keys, TV remotes, wireless remote keyboard
and mice we place in meeting rooms where I work, and I'm glancing all
around me where the HECK did I put such and such down. One of my
guardian angels(I call him that because he literally saves my ass
every time, good soul, only 25 years old!) grabs it or points to it -
usually right in front of me.
3.  Names.  After 3 years of working with mostly the same 5-6 guys at
my job, I'm still calling Robert David, and David, Ty. And so on.
There are four women in the office whose job is to book video-
conferences around the building.  I'm always calling Liza Andrea, and
calling Wendy Isabel!
I could go on and on.
Basically, I've had every type of cognitive paper & pencil test done,
those "blotch" tests where you report what you think the ink stain
looks like.  I've had advanced tests - MRIs, contrasting CAT scans,
blood tests.  EEGs.  And my brain and nervous system came back
NEGATIVE for anything out of ordinary.
Oh, and another big red flapping flag:  My math skills are and always
have been abysmal.  I can't count the number of chairs in our large
conference room, even if some of them are stacked in fours(for safety
any more than four will tip).  I always get a different count!  LOL.
And facial recognition?  I've already been diagnosed as a milder case
of Asperger's(and wonder if that's tied in here somehow).  I
absolutely cannot watch a serious movie(The Reader - Kate winslet)
(Inglorious Basterds - Pitt) because all the main faces blend
together!!
So people of this group... WHAT do you think is going on here?  I can
actually tell you what responses I expect, so you know enough not to
"You're not concentrating hard enough".  "Focus more!"  "You're just
preoccupied, that's all".
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response.   I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
-ChrisCoaster
The "Coaster" signifies my hobby - I spend lots of time on them!
Chris,
None of us is qualified to diagnose you.   There could be something
wrong, or it is just that you are distracted and never having trained
yourself to be attentive to details.    Or it is something else
altogether that hasn't been considered.
You say you have been for quite a few tests, which is what those of us
on this group would suggest ordinarily that you go and do.  
 Did they test for thyroid by the way?    Thyroid problems are also
known to create difficulties with memory.   How about your vitamin
B-12 levels?  That is another thing which can cause this.   How about
your blood sugar?
There are lots of medical conditions that can affect memory as a side
issue.   Some of them are easy fixes.
So look into those areas too, if you haven't already..... but in the
meanwhile, I suggest that you develop some VERY good coping mechanisms
until you do know what it is.   Carry around a note pad in your pocket
and keep a things to do reminder list.    I do it on my computer,
deleting the things that are no longer relevant.
Use sticky notes.   Get a wristwatch with an alarm.   Whatever you
need to do to make sure you do the right things at the right times.
Good luck,
Evelyn
Chris,

I think that one of the only ways to maintain a healthy brain and mind
is to train it. You might want to train you brain as you would train
your body with brain training software ex: http://www.cognifit.com .
I've been using the site and think it's amazing!

Best of luck!!!
Evelyn
2011-06-24 20:09:52 UTC
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Post by Evelyn
Post by Evelyn
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT), ChrisCoaster
Post by ChrisCoaster
. . . have this thing called Alzheimer's Disease - or at least the
early version of it?
It was 4pm one weekday and I brought up the possibility I might have
early Alzheimers to my cross-the-hall neighbor in my apt. bldg.  I
listed some symptoms and he nearly blew a conniption.  He seems so
insulted!  Turns out he has a friend(relative?) with full-blown AD.
He pointed his finger at me and said "those things don't always mean
you have AD!  My friend doesn't even know his/her own face in a
mirror!"
Needless to say we are still friends and have good conversations and
some lively political debates together.
So WHY do I think I have the early version??
1.  Well, I'm a 41 1/2 y/o male.   My memory pattern - PISS POOR in
the short term - daily to weekly, but incredibly VIVD with regards to
the dates, colors, and even smells of events 10, 30 years ago!  My
supervisors at work are dying to be rid of me because I never seem to
remember or recall tasks they assign me, but thankfully their boss(and
mine by ext), has apparently been keeping them in line, presumably
behind closed doors.
2.  I put down objects - keys, TV remotes, wireless remote keyboard
and mice we place in meeting rooms where I work, and I'm glancing all
around me where the HECK did I put such and such down. One of my
guardian angels(I call him that because he literally saves my ass
every time, good soul, only 25 years old!) grabs it or points to it -
usually right in front of me.
3.  Names.  After 3 years of working with mostly the same 5-6 guys at
my job, I'm still calling Robert David, and David, Ty. And so on.
There are four women in the office whose job is to book video-
conferences around the building.  I'm always calling Liza Andrea, and
calling Wendy Isabel!
I could go on and on.
Basically, I've had every type of cognitive paper & pencil test done,
those "blotch" tests where you report what you think the ink stain
looks like.  I've had advanced tests - MRIs, contrasting CAT scans,
blood tests.  EEGs.  And my brain and nervous system came back
NEGATIVE for anything out of ordinary.
Oh, and another big red flapping flag:  My math skills are and always
have been abysmal.  I can't count the number of chairs in our large
conference room, even if some of them are stacked in fours(for safety
any more than four will tip).  I always get a different count!  LOL.
And facial recognition?  I've already been diagnosed as a milder case
of Asperger's(and wonder if that's tied in here somehow).  I
absolutely cannot watch a serious movie(The Reader - Kate winslet)
(Inglorious Basterds - Pitt) because all the main faces blend
together!!
So people of this group... WHAT do you think is going on here?  I can
actually tell you what responses I expect, so you know enough not to
"You're not concentrating hard enough".  "Focus more!"  "You're just
preoccupied, that's all".
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response.   I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
-ChrisCoaster
The "Coaster" signifies my hobby - I spend lots of time on them!
Chris,
None of us is qualified to diagnose you.   There could be something
wrong, or it is just that you are distracted and never having trained
yourself to be attentive to details.    Or it is something else
altogether that hasn't been considered.
You say you have been for quite a few tests, which is what those of us
on this group would suggest ordinarily that you go and do.  
 Did they test for thyroid by the way?    Thyroid problems are also
known to create difficulties with memory.   How about your vitamin
B-12 levels?  That is another thing which can cause this.   How about
your blood sugar?
There are lots of medical conditions that can affect memory as a side
issue.   Some of them are easy fixes.
So look into those areas too, if you haven't already..... but in the
meanwhile, I suggest that you develop some VERY good coping mechanisms
until you do know what it is.   Carry around a note pad in your pocket
and keep a things to do reminder list.    I do it on my computer,
deleting the things that are no longer relevant.
Use sticky notes.   Get a wristwatch with an alarm.   Whatever you
need to do to make sure you do the right things at the right times.
Good luck,
Evelyn
Chris,
I think that one of the only ways to maintain a healthy brain and mind
is to train it. You might want to train you brain as you would train
your body with brain training software ex: http://www.cognifit.com .
I've been using the site and think it's amazing!
Best of luck!!!
I hate to tell you this, but brain "training" works, but not on a
brain that is already sick enough to have a diagnosis of alzheimers.

Evelyn
Dennis P. Harris
2011-06-25 09:01:30 UTC
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Post by ChrisCoaster
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response. I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
If you have been taking a statin drug (Crestor, Zocor,
Simvistatin) to lower cholesterol they are known to cause memory
loss. Personally, I would never take them, but would change to a
very low fat diet instead.
Evelyn
2011-06-25 11:20:35 UTC
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Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) in
Post by ChrisCoaster
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response. I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
If you have been taking a statin drug (Crestor, Zocor,
Simvistatin) to lower cholesterol they are known to cause memory
loss. Personally, I would never take them, but would change to a
very low fat diet instead.
Good to see you again Dennis!

Evelyn
ChrisCoaster
2011-06-27 16:17:04 UTC
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Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) in
Post by ChrisCoaster
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response.   I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
If you have been taking a statin drug (Crestor, Zocor,
Simvistatin) to lower cholesterol they are known to cause memory
loss.  Personally, I would never take them, but would change to a
very low fat diet instead.
_____________________
Nope. Never took 'em.

-CC
ChrisCoaster
2011-06-29 20:54:37 UTC
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Post by Dennis P. Harris
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) in
Post by ChrisCoaster
I did NOT come here to hear those type of response.   I came here for
whatever support or suggestions you may have, and I thank you in
advance.
If you have been taking a statin drug (Crestor, Zocor,
Simvistatin) to lower cholesterol they are known to cause memory
loss.  Personally, I would never take them, but would change to a
very low fat diet instead.
__________________________________
Once more frikkin GOOGLE GROUPS has dropped the ball!

I cannot read any of my posts/replies to this or other groups'
threads!

But pretty much Dennis no, I take NO precsription drugs, including the
statins you mentioned.

-CC
Bohgosity BumaskiL
2011-09-04 10:43:18 UTC
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On 2011-06-29 2:54 PM, ChrisCoaster wrote:
(...)
Post by ChrisCoaster
Once more frikkin GOOGLE GROUPS has dropped the ball!
(...)

http://www.google.ca/search?q=news+servers+reviews

I pay ten euros per year for some tight control on spam
at http://news.individual.net/ Free University, Berlin.

As regards whether you have Alzheimer's Chris, you could
spew your symptoms, maybe a printout of this thread's root,
then ask your family doctor to prescribe an Alz medication.

If it helps, and the side-effects are acceptable, then
maybe you should stay on it. There is the possibility
that all you really need is confidence and peace of mind
concerning your memory.
_______
http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/Sound/Puppy.mp3

Alan Meyer
2011-06-29 16:17:07 UTC
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Post by ChrisCoaster
. . . have this thing called Alzheimer's Disease - or at least the
early version of it?
...

I don't know and am not qualified to have an opinion about it.

You say you've had various tests. I presume these were conducted by a
competent neurologist. Did he say anything? Was he trying to find
whatever your problem was or just trying to determine if you had AD?

There are people whose brains lack certain cognitive abilities, but
don't have Alzheimer's Disease. Oliver Sacks, the famous neurologist,
is unable to recognize faces. Some people are tone deaf and cannot hear
that two musical notes are different. Some people can't read a line of
text, it appears to squirm around in their vision and they can't
distinguish individual words. The problems exist in varying degrees in
different people.

The bad news, as you already know, is that such problems create
difficulties in living. The good news however is that they are NOT
degenerative diseases. The problems don't get worse over time. If
you've lived with them up to age 41 and found ways to cope, the odds are
good that you'll be able to continue living and coping.

So perhaps the key questions here are, Are these problems new? Are they
getting worse?

I'm hoping that they're not getting worse and you can continue to cope
with them.

I would endorse Evelyn's suggestions that you get tested for other
things that can cause memory problems - if you haven't already been
tested, and also her suggestion about sticky notes, special watch,
personal digital assistant, etc. Use every trick you can find. Go to
the public library and get some books on memory tricks and training.
You may read about 10 tricks for remembering dates, faces, places, etc.
Maybe nine of those won't work for you but one of them does and fills
in a significant hole in your abilities. It's worth a try.

Also, try to maximize all of the things that you do well. You do some
things poorly, but you probably do some other things very well. Use
those as best you can to make a contribution at work and elsewhere so
that people will see and appreciate your real contributions even if you
can't do some other things well. Be friendly. Help others. Make
yourself useful as best you can. People who have a good attitude and
are willing to work hard can usually be accepted and liked at work even
if they can't do everything that others do.

Best of luck.

Alan
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