Discussion:
ok here's a newcomer
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m
2011-03-14 21:53:19 UTC
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Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.

Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.

I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's

What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
Jim
2011-03-15 21:41:47 UTC
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Go and see a Neurologist, I have had it for the last 3 years but I am also
taking medication which slows the sickness and allows you to live a good
life, it runs on my mothers side and every one on her side died of it. Wish
you the best.

Jim

"m" wrote in message news:ilm2oe$i6k$***@speranza.aioe.org...

Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.

Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.

I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's

What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
m
2011-03-16 09:49:43 UTC
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Post by Jim
Go and see a Neurologist, I have had it for the last 3 years but I am
also taking medication which slows the sickness and allows you to live
a good life, it runs on my mothers side and every one on her side died
of it. Wish you the best.
Jim
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
What objective evidence do you have that the drugs you're taking are
slowing the process? None, I bet. Drugs did nothing for my brother,
probably made him worse and he was being seen by the best doctors. Even
went to Mayo and they could do nothing.

Exercise is the only thing that has any promise of slowing it down
according the lead researcher at Mayo.

As far as seeing a neurologist, what good will that do except deplete my
pocketbook. There is no credible treatment.
EddyJean
2011-03-18 18:45:13 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 9:49am (PDT+7)
From: ***@m.net (m)
"Jim" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ilomeh$ct6$***@news.eternal-september.org:
Go and see a Neurologist, I have had it for the last 3 years but I am
also taking medication which slows the sickness and allows you to live a
good life, it runs on my mothers side and every one on her side died of
it. Wish you the best.
Jim
"m" wrote in message news:ilm2oe$i6k$***@speranza.aioe.org...
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
What objective evidence do you have that the drugs you're taking are
slowing the process? None, I bet. Drugs did nothing for my brother,
probably made him worse and he was being seen by the best doctors. Even
went to Mayo and they could do nothing.
Exercise is the only thing that has any promise of slowing it down
according the lead researcher at Mayo.
As far as seeing a neurologist, what good will that do except deplete my
pocketbook. There is no credible treatment.
===========
I've often wondered what students are taught in medical schools. As I've
written before, my hat is off to any doctor or researcher who is truly
in the medical profession to help the sick, but to find one is like
looking for a needle in a haystack. When seeing a neurologist, its
usually useless stuff like: follow my finger, touch your nose, walk the
line, tap the knee, etc. Why the National Institutes of Health refuses
to study or follow up on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome, a virus discovered in
1907 by an icon that enters the ear and moves to the brain is nothing
short of criminal. The World Health Organization should look into this
but don't do anything either. They're all in it together. The root of
all evil is money, money, money.
EddyJean
Evelyn
2011-03-18 19:56:33 UTC
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Post by EddyJean
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 9:49am (PDT+7)
Go and see a Neurologist, I have had it for the last 3 years but I am
also taking medication which slows the sickness and allows you to live a
good life, it runs on my mothers side and every one on her side died of
it. Wish you the best.
Jim
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
What objective evidence do you have that the drugs you're taking are
slowing the process? None, I bet. Drugs did nothing for my brother,
probably made him worse and he was being seen by the best doctors. Even
went to Mayo and they could do nothing.
Exercise is the only thing that has any promise of slowing it down
according the lead researcher at Mayo.
As far as seeing a neurologist, what good will that do except deplete my
pocketbook. There is no credible treatment.
===========
I've often wondered what students are taught in medical schools. As I've
written before, my hat is off to any doctor or researcher who is truly
in the medical profession to help the sick, but to find one is like
looking for a needle in a haystack. When seeing a neurologist, its
usually useless stuff like: follow my finger, touch your nose, walk the
line, tap the knee, etc. Why the National Institutes of Health refuses
to study or follow up on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome, a virus discovered in
1907 by an icon that enters the ear and moves to the brain is nothing
short of criminal. The World Health Organization should look into this
but don't do anything either. They're all in it together. The root of
all evil is money, money, money.
EddyJean
Baloney, and more baloney. (groannnnn)

For anyone who believes this tale, I have a bridge to sell you in
Brooklyn.

Evelyn
EddyJean
2011-03-19 07:58:18 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Fri, Mar 18, 2011, 3:56pm (PDT+3)
From: ***@gmail.com (Evelyn)
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:45:13 -0700, ***@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 9:49am (PDT+7)
From: ***@m.net (m)
"Jim" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ilomeh$ct6$***@news.eternal-september.org: Go and see a Neurologist,
I have had it for the last 3 years but I am also taking medication which
slows the sickness and allows you to live a good life, it runs on my
mothers side and every one on her side died of it. Wish you the best.
Jim
"m" wrote in message news:ilm2oe$i6k$***@speranza.aioe.org... Mother died
of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process. I am
next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's What's
the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the pipeline?
Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not buying that.
What objective evidence do you have that the drugs you're taking are
slowing the process? None, I bet. Drugs did nothing for my brother,
probably made him worse and he was being seen by the best doctors. Even
went to Mayo and they could do nothing.
Exercise is the only thing that has any promise of slowing it down
according the lead researcher at Mayo.
As far as seeing a neurologist, what good will that do except deplete my
pocketbook. There is no credible treatment.
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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
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I've often wondered what students are taught in medical schools. As I've
written before, my hat is off to any doctor or researcher who is truly
in the medical profession to help the sick, but to find one is like
looking for a needle in a haystack. When seeing a neurologist, its
usually useless stuff like: follow my finger, touch your nose, walk the
line, tap the knee, etc. Why the National Institutes of Health refuses
to study or follow up on Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome, a virus discovered in
1907 by an icon that enters the ear and moves to the brain is nothing
short of criminal. The World Health Organization should look into this
but don't do anything either. They're all in it together. The root of
all evil is money, money, money.
EddyJean
Baloney, and more baloney. =A0 (groannnnn)
For anyone who believes this tale, I have a bridge to sell you in
Brooklyn.
Evelyn
+++++++
Evelyn always has had a problem hearing the truth, nor does she want YOU
to know the truth. She never has anything to back up her babblings.
Ignore her.
EddyJean
Lynn Lynn
2011-03-16 13:49:09 UTC
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Welcome!


I am so sorry to hear about your Mother and Brother.

Have you been tested for or diagnosed with Alzheimer's or do you just
feel that you will suffer from it because of other family members?

My Mother was the only one anywhere in our family who suffered with
Dementia. She had eight brothers and sisters.

Please keep checking in here because there are some who have had
experience with various medications.

Cherish each day!

Lynn
jj
2011-03-17 05:46:07 UTC
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Post by Lynn Lynn
Welcome!
I am so sorry to hear about your Mother and Brother.
Have you been tested for or diagnosed with Alzheimer's or do you just
feel that you will suffer from it because of other family members?
My Mother was the only one anywhere in our family who suffered with
Dementia. She had eight brothers and sisters.
Please keep checking in here because there are some who have had
experience with various medications.
Cherish each day!
Lynn
Just read an article that Alz in Mother is strong predictor for same in
children.
Lynn Lynn
2011-03-17 13:50:46 UTC
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I, too, have read that Alzheimer's in Mother is predictor for children
and that is a scary thought!


When I think back of some of Mom's actions that I thought was just "old
age" and it turned out to be the beginning of the end - I don't want
that to happen to me. I want to know my daughter and grandson until the
day I die - not think they are strangers.

Watching Mom fade away was the saddest thing I have ever experienced and
something I will never forget.

We just truly need to enjoy each and every day while we can.

Lynn
BF
2011-03-16 20:04:49 UTC
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Post by m
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
My mother and her two sisters died from it. Also, two sisters on my
dad's side. I am very concerned for myself. I have been giving some
money to Alzheimer's Research but I am getting discouraged.
I keep hearing about new drugs and promising progress, and then that is
it. I never hear any more about it. Then it is on to some new progress
or medication and then nothing is heard about that. It seems like all of
the research is in slowing it down and not curing or preventing it.
ok
2011-03-17 05:48:41 UTC
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Post by BF
Post by m
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
My mother and her two sisters died from it. Also, two sisters on my
dad's side. I am very concerned for myself. I have been giving some
money to Alzheimer's Research but I am getting discouraged.
I keep hearing about new drugs and promising progress, and then that is
it. I never hear any more about it. Then it is on to some new progress
or medication and then nothing is heard about that. It seems like all of
the research is in slowing it down and not curing or preventing it.
It's like juvenile Gorillas testing by beating their chests. Nothing will
come of it, but they make alot of noise. 99% of what doctors and
researchers say nowadays is pure BS. And alot of medical advice treatment
is harmful not helpful. There is a reason why so many malpractice lawyers
make a living suing the medical profession. And it's not just false
trumped up charged by them either.
Alan Holbrook
2011-03-17 13:56:10 UTC
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You know, you guys are absolutely correct. Every member of the medical
profession is a charlatan just out to make money off poor gullible fools.
And Alzheimer's is not only not curable, it never will be, and neurologists
and existing medications are all worthless quackery. We'll all wind up
dying of this disease some day.

Guns, on the other hand, are radily available for little cost, and bullets
will end all your problems. Just get hold of four off them. Or, since I
suspect you're all one person, one bullet will probably do. Just make sure
the gun is a fairly hefty calibre. After all, troll skin is hard to
penetrate.
actually
2011-03-17 19:28:48 UTC
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Post by Alan Holbrook
You know, you guys are absolutely correct. Every member of the
medical profession is a charlatan just out to make money off poor
gullible fools. And Alzheimer's is not only not curable, it never
will be, and neurologists and existing medications are all worthless
quackery. We'll all wind up dying of this disease some day.
Guns, on the other hand, are radily available for little cost, and
bullets will end all your problems. Just get hold of four off them.
Or, since I suspect you're all one person, one bullet will probably
do. Just make sure the gun is a fairly hefty calibre. After all,
troll skin is hard to penetrate.
Actually, you're giving GOOD advice. That is a good plan for anyone
facing Alz. Certainly better than the slow death and suffering offered by
medical "science" hahahhaha. In fact that is JUST what I am planning.
Thanks for the confirmation.
M
2011-03-17 20:58:09 UTC
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Post by Alan Holbrook
You know, you guys are absolutely correct. Every member of
the medical
profession is a charlatan just out to make money off poor
gullible fools.
And Alzheimer's is not only not curable, it never will be,
and neurologists
and existing medications are all worthless quackery. We'll
all wind up
dying of this disease some day.
Guns, on the other hand, are radily available for little
cost, and bullets
will end all your problems. Just get hold of four off them.
Or, since I
suspect you're all one person, one bullet will probably do.
Just make sure
the gun is a fairly hefty calibre. After all, troll skin is
hard to
penetrate.
The headers are all the same so my guess is you are right
Alan.
notdemented
2011-03-19 00:01:54 UTC
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Post by M
Post by Alan Holbrook
You know, you guys are absolutely correct. Every member of
the medical
profession is a charlatan just out to make money off poor
gullible fools.
And Alzheimer's is not only not curable, it never will be,
and neurologists
and existing medications are all worthless quackery. We'll
all wind up
dying of this disease some day.
Guns, on the other hand, are radily available for little
cost, and bullets
will end all your problems. Just get hold of four off them.
Or, since I
suspect you're all one person, one bullet will probably do.
Just make sure
the gun is a fairly hefty calibre. After all, troll skin is
hard to
penetrate.
The headers are all the same so my guess is you are right
Alan.
No YOU are correct. Most doctors ARE charlatans.
EddyJean
2011-03-19 07:47:56 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer Answer for m, jj, BF, ok

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2011, 1:56pm (PDT+7)
From: ***@lets.not (Alan=A0Holbrook)
You know, you guys are absolutely correct. Every member of the medical
profession is a charlatan just out to make money off poor gullible
fools. And Alzheimer's is not only not curable, it never will be, and
neurologists and existing medications are all worthless quackery. We'll
all wind up dying of this disease some day.
Guns, on the other hand, are radily available for little cost, and
bullets will end all your problems. Just get hold of four off them. Or,
since I suspect you're all one person, one bullet will probably do. Just
make sure the gun is a fairly hefty calibre. After all, troll skin is
hard to penetrate.
+++++++++
Yes, Alan, I think your right. Unless wealthy individuals take it upon
themselves to find a cure to Alzheimers, a cure will never be found by
the government or medical profession. Consider the cold which is caused
from a virus too. The drug companies would lose billions through
over-the-counter cold medications, pneumonia and other serious
respiratory problems that can develop from a cold. The medical
profession has no interest in finding cures and that was proved to me
after being accepted into a cranial/facial study at the nation's top
research center several years ago. This so-called "study" was a joke to
say the least. I couldn't believe doctors' ignorance on neurological
diseases. Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS) was discovered in the 1930s, and
still today, everything remains as when it was first discovered.
Nothin's changed except spend a lot of taxpayer money on new hospital
wings and clinics that don't do the chronically-ill patient a bit of
good.
EddyJean
EddyJean
2011-03-20 07:00:37 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Mar 16, 2011, 4:04pm (PDT+3)
From: ***@yahoo.com (BF)
=A0=A0=A0=A0On 3/14/2011 5:53 PM, m wrote:
Mother died of it. Brother dying of it.
Drugs and Doctors did not good and probably hastened the process.
I am next, I figure I have about 5 good years left in my early 60's
What's the latest dope on prevention? Anything new coming down the
pipeline? Mostly I have read it is a problem of inflammation, but not
buying that.
My mother and her two sisters died from it. Also, two sisters on my
dad's side. I am very concerned for myself. I have been giving some
money to Alzheimer's Research but I am getting discouraged. I keep
hearing about new drugs and promising progress, and then that is it. I
never hear any more about it. Then it is on to some new progress or
medication and then nothing is heard about that. It seems like all of
the research is in slowing it down and not curing or preventing it.
++++++
Right on, BF. I've contacted many foundations trying to get research
brought back to Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome, a neurological disease very
similar to Alzheimers discovered in 1907 and may be the same thing but
needs study. Foundations are a great tax haven for the rich but really
don't know what they do to help discover cures. I think they should all
be investigated or eliminated altogether.
EddyJean
Alan Holbrook
2011-03-20 09:23:10 UTC
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OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."

Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax
havens for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy
Jean, can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to
shelter income.

If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to
the needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.

Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
EddyJean
2011-03-20 16:50:22 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
From: ***@lets.not (Alan=A0Holbrook)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.
Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
+++++++
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Evelyn
2011-03-20 19:38:24 UTC
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Post by EddyJean
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.
Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
+++++++
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Eddy Jean, you are a sick person with a delusion that you can't let go
of even if you are proven to be in error. I just hope people who
read here are smart enough to do their own research and discover that
you are a troll.

Nobody in the world would be happier than I would be if there was a
cure. You, however are on the wrong track altogether and you are so
stuck you just can't let go of your delusion.

Evelyn
rosebyanyother
2011-03-21 02:19:06 UTC
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Post by Evelyn
Post by EddyJean
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.
Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
+++++++
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Eddy Jean, you are a sick person with a delusion that you can't let go
of even if you are proven to be in error. I just hope people who
read here are smart enough to do their own research and discover that
you are a troll.
Nobody in the world would be happier than I would be if there was a
cure. You, however are on the wrong track altogether and you are so
stuck you just can't let go of your delusion.
Evelyn
Ad Hominen attack from an amateur psychiatrist.
EddyJean
2011-03-21 03:15:01 UTC
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Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 3:38pm (PDT+3)
From: ***@gmail.com (Evelyn)
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:50:22 -0700, ***@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote:
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
From: ***@lets.not (Alan=A0Holbrook)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance. Your paranoia gets in
the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And that speaks as badly
about you as you do about the evil conspiracies against Dr. Hunt.
Someone who does something you don't like isn't necessarily evil,
sweetheart...
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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Eddy Jean, you are a sick person with a delusion that you can't let go
of even if you are proven to be in error. =A0 I just hope people who
read here are smart enough to do their own research and discover that
you are a troll.
Nobody in the world would be happier than I would be if there was a
cure. =A0 You, however are on the wrong track altogether and you are so
stuck you just can't let go of your delusion.
Evelyn
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The situation is, if we don't agree with you, Alan (another one of your
groupie) say we're trolls but not you. Your right and everyone else is
wrong. Baloney peabrain. Still nothing on the horizon for ALS and a
whole bunch of other neurological disease, how long should people wait
before any help arrives for us??? Forever? When the father of neurology
in the United States has already discovered the virus in 1907 that
causes facial/cranial diseases, and you don't want people to know,
there's really something wrong with the two of you.
EddyJean
M
2011-03-21 15:03:43 UTC
Permalink
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:24237-4D86C2B5-***@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...

Re: ok here's a newcomer

snip
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The situation is, if we don't agree with you, Alan (another
one of your
groupie) say we're trolls but not you. Your right and
everyone else is
wrong. Baloney peabrain. Still nothing on the horizon for ALS
and a
whole bunch of other neurological disease, how long should
people wait
before any help arrives for us??? Forever? When the father of
neurology
in the United States has already discovered the virus in 1907
that
causes facial/cranial diseases, and you don't want people to
know,
there's really something wrong with the two of you.
EddyJean

==============
Actually EJ there are more of us that agree with Evelyn and
Alan. We just don't reply to you because of the onslaught of
one minded misinformation from you that follows. Continual BS
just doesn't deserve a response.
EddyJean
2011-03-21 15:35:01 UTC
Permalink
Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011, 11:03am (PDT+3)
From: ***@showblo.vom (M)
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:24237-4D86C2B5-***@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
Re: ok here's a newcomer
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The situation is, if we don't agree with you, Alan (another one of your
groupie) say we're trolls but not you. Your right and everyone else is
wrong. Baloney peabrain. Still nothing on the horizon for ALS and a
whole bunch of other neurological disease, how long should people wait
before any help arrives for us??? Forever? When the father of
neurology
in the United States has already discovered the virus in 1907 that
causes facial/cranial diseases, and you don't want people to know,
there's really something wrong with the two of you. EddyJean
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Actually EJ there are more of us that agree with Evelyn and Alan. We
just don't reply to you because of the onslaught of one minded
misinformation from you that follows. Continual BS just doesn't deserve
a response.
++++++++
Yes, but have you noticed, things are changing? People are beginning to
wake up to the vast corruption in healthcare that gives us nothing in
return except deceive and empty our pockets? The late Dr. Hunt, an icon,
discovered in 1907, the virus causing facial/cranial diseases. He was
written up in the history books, listed in the book of "Who's Who" of
his time, the father of neurology in the United States, and you call
this misinformation peabrain? Apparently there's something wrong with
you too or possibly benefiting from the thousands of sick and premature
deaths of keeping the true Americans in the dark.
EddyJean
M
2011-03-21 17:45:39 UTC
Permalink
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:24236-4D877025-***@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...

Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011, 11:03am
(PDT+3)
From: ***@showblo.vom (M)
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:24237-4D86C2B5-***@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
Re: ok here's a newcomer
snip

The situation is, if we don't agree with you, Alan (another
one of your
groupie) say we're trolls but not you. Your right and everyone
else is
wrong. Baloney peabrain. Still nothing on the horizon for ALS
and a
whole bunch of other neurological disease, how long should
people wait
before any help arrives for us??? Forever? When the father of
neurology
in the United States has already discovered the virus in 1907
that
causes facial/cranial diseases, and you don't want people to
know,
there's really something wrong with the two of you. EddyJean
==============
Actually EJ there are more of us that agree with Evelyn and
Alan. We
just don't reply to you because of the onslaught of one minded
misinformation from you that follows. Continual BS just
doesn't deserve
a response.
++++++++
Yes, but have you noticed, things are changing? People are
beginning to
wake up to the vast corruption in healthcare that gives us
nothing in
return except deceive and empty our pockets? The late Dr.
Hunt, an icon,
discovered in 1907, the virus causing facial/cranial diseases.
He was
written up in the history books, listed in the book of "Who's
Who" of
his time, the father of neurology in the United States, and
you call
this misinformation peabrain? Apparently there's something
wrong with
you too or possibly benefiting from the thousands of sick and
premature
deaths of keeping the true Americans in the dark.
EddyJean
++++++++++++++++++++++

Point, set, match or SameOldSh**

urname
2011-03-21 02:17:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by EddyJean
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.
Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
+++++++
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Most of these foundations and non-profits have selfish interests at
heart. Look at the United Way and Red Cross scandals. Most of these are
scams as you pointed out. Most doctors in this Kuntry are incompetent,
imnsho and are more likely to hasten your death than prolong it.
EddyJean
2011-03-21 03:28:12 UTC
Permalink
Re: ok here's a newcomer

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011, 2:17am (PDT+7)
From: ***@here.com (urname)
***@webtv.net (EddyJean) wrote in news:28055-4D86304E-1927
@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net:
Re: ok here's a newcomer
Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2011, 9:23am (PDT+7)
From: ***@lets.not (Alan=A0Holbrook)
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax havens
for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy Jean,
can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to shelter
income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to the
needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance. Your paranoia gets in
the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean. And that speaks as badly
about you as you do about the evil conspiracies against Dr. Hunt.
Someone who does something you don't like isn't necessarily evil,
sweetheart...
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Look, honeybunch, have you ever tried contacting many foundations for
help to support research? If you did, I think you'd finally learn
something. I've noticed, however, when it's a group of people with the
spotlight on the foundation, they may provide support but very limited
in scope. Otherwise, I haven't found one yet. When there's so little
support from the foundations, where's all the money going that the good
folks are gifting to them??? You need an education on what's really
going on in this world. Just like Evelyn, you don't want to hear the
truth either.
Have a nice day.
EddyJean
Most of these foundations and non-profits have selfish interests at
heart. Look at the United Way and Red Cross scandals. Most of these are
scams as you pointed out. Most doctors in this Kuntry are incompetent,
imnsho and are more likely to hasten your death than prolong it.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I contacted many foundations and there's no help from them. In fact,
the neurological study I was accepted into had one doctor at the
nation's largest research center that knew nothing about Ramsay-Hunt
Syndrome, a neurological disease similar to AD, now sits on the
foundation's board!!!! There a serious lack of accountability from
foundations. They just want our money.
EddyJean
urname
2011-03-21 02:15:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alan Holbrook
OK, Eddy Jean, I thought had learned my lesson a while ago about trying
to deal with you logically, and I'd managed to ignore an awful lot of
the trash and nonsense you've been spouting, but this one needs an
answer. I'd like to remind you of the old saying "It's better to keep
your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it."
Yes, foundations are a tax haven. Nothing illegal, or even morally
wrong, with trying to keep more of your money and give less to the
government. Are they tax havens for the rich? Yes. Are they tax
havens for the poor and for the middle class? Again, yes. Anyone, Eddy
Jean, can (and if they're smart, does) make use of a foundation to
shelter income.
If you don't know what they do to find cures, try researching the
question before implying they don't. Private charitable foundations
provide more support for aid of various kinds than does government
funding. Eliminate them altogether and you eliminate a lot of aid to
the needy, not just medical research, but things like food assistance,
shelter assistance, and heating oil assistance.
Your paranoia gets in the way of your recognizing truth, Eddy Jean.
And
Post by Alan Holbrook
that speaks as badly about you as you do about the evil conspiracies
against Dr. Hunt. Someone who does something you don't like isn't
necessarily evil, sweetheart...
Maybe it's not so much that SHE is paranoid as it is that you're gullible
and one of the herd.
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