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Iron In Acetylcholinesterase
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ironjustice
2011-01-02 17:57:51 UTC
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"Iron promoted a significant increase in AChE activity"

Iron exposure modifies acetylcholinesterase activity in zebrafish
(Danio rerio)
tissues: distinct susceptibility of tissues to iron overload
Biomedical and Life Sciences Fish Physiology and Biochemistry
M. C. B. Sant’Anna, Vanessa de Matas Soares, Kelly Juliana Seibt,
Gabriele Ghisleni,
Eduardo Pacheco Rico, Denis Broock Rosemberg, Jarbas Rodrigues de
Oliveira, Nadja Schröder,
Carla Denise Bonan and Mauricio Reis Bogo

Abstract
Iron is one the most abundant metals on the earth being essential for
living organisms
even though its free form can be toxic.
The overload of this metal may be related with some disorders, like
Alzheimer and Parkinson
diseases, and hemochromatosis in the liver.
The aim of the present study was to evaluate the effects of iron on
acetylcholinesterase
(AChE) activity in brain and liver of zebrafish and to investigate the
possible correlation
with the iron content in these tissues.
Different corresponding concentrations of iron were tested using in
vitro (0.018, 0.268, and 2.6 mM)
and in vivo (1, 15, and 150 mg/l) assays.
The in vitro studies showed that iron promoted a significant increase
in AChE activity in brain (52%)
and liver (53%) at the higher concentration (2.6 mM).
In the in vivo assays, a significant increase in this enzyme activity
was observed in the presence of
15 mg/l in both, brain (62%) and liver tissue (70%).
Semiquantitative RT-PCR did not reveal significant changes in
acetylthiocholinesterase mRNA levels.
Moreover, we observed that iron content was significantly increased in
liver tissue when exposed to
15 (226%) and 150 mg/l (200%).
These results indicate that iron can promote significant alterations
in AChE activity which probably
is not directly related to the iron content in zebrafish tissues.

Keywords Iron toxicity – Acetylcholinesterase activity – Zebrafish

DOI: 10.1007/s10695-010-9459-7 Online First™

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"AChEI increase the concentration of extracellular acetylcholine"

Anti-inflammatory properties of cholinergic up-regulation: A new role
for acetylcholinesterase inhibitors.
Nizri E, Hamra-Amitay Y, Sicsic C, Lavon I, Brenner T.
Laboratory of Neuroimmunology, Department of Neurology, The Agnes
Ginges
Center for Human Neurogenetics, Hadassah-Hebrew University Medical
Center, P.O. Box 12000, Jerusalem 91120, Israel.


We investigated the anti-inflammatory effects of acetylcholinesterase
inhibitors (AChEI) at the cellular and molecular levels.
AChEI suppressed lymphocyte proliferation and pro-inflammatory
cytokine production, as well as extracellular esterase activity.
Anti-inflammatory activity was mediated by the alpha7 nicotinic
acetylcholine receptor (neuronal); the muscarinic receptor had the
opposite effect.
Treatment of the central nervous system (CNS)inflammatory disease,
experimental autoimmune encephalomyelitis (EAE),with EN101, an
anti-sense oligodeoxynucleotide, targeted to AChE mRNA,
reduced the clinical severity of the disease and CNS inflammation
intensity.
The results of our experiments suggest that AChEI increase
the concentration of extracellular acetylcholine (ACh), rendering it
available for interaction with a nicotinic receptor expressed on
lymphocytes.
Our findings point to a novel role for AChEI which may be
relevant in CNS inflammatory diseases such as EAE and multiple
sclerosis.
They also emphasize the importance of cholinergic balance in
neurological disorders, such as Alzheimer's disease and
myasthenia gravis, in which these drugs are used.


PMID: 16336980

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"Lecithin may therefore be the method of choice for
accelerating acetylcholine synthesis"

Lecithin consumption raises serum-free-choline levels.
Lancet. 1977 Jul 9;2(8028):68-9.
Wurtman RJ, Hirsch MJ, Growdon JH.

Consumption of choline by rats sequentially increases serum-choline,
brain-choline, and brain-acetylcholine concentrations.
In man consumption of choline increases in levels in the serum and
cerebrospinal fluid; its administration is an effective way of
treating
tardive dyskinesia.
We found that oral lecithin is considerably more effective in raising
human serum-choline levels than an equivalent quantity of choline
chloride.
30 minutes after ingestion of choline chloride (2-3 g free base),
serum-choline levels rose by 86% and returned to normal values
within 4 hours; 1 hour after lecithin ingestion, these levels rose by
265% and remained significantly raised for 12 hours.
Lecithin may therefore be the method of choice for accelerating
acetylcholine synthesis by increasing the availability of choline,
its precursor in the blood.

PMID: 69151 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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EddyJean
2011-01-12 17:26:08 UTC
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Hello Iron Justice:
You've reported on too much iron in the brain, have you read anything on
(what looks like) dark brown iron blotches appearing externally on the
head and other places on the skin?
EddyJean
Jim
2011-02-09 23:59:29 UTC
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Has anyone ever-received a reply from Iron Justice? I wonder???????????? I
have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's 3 years ago and really enjoy this
support group but I wonder about this one?

Jim
Post by EddyJean
You've reported on too much iron in the brain, have you read anything on
(what looks like) dark brown iron blotches appearing externally on the
head and other places on the skin?
EddyJean
Evelyn
2011-02-10 01:47:05 UTC
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Post by Jim
Has anyone ever-received a reply from Iron Justice? I wonder???????????? I
have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's 3 years ago and really enjoy this
support group but I wonder about this one?
Jim
Jim, you are right to wonder. We do have some trolls. Best to ignore
them.
Post by Jim
Post by EddyJean
You've reported on too much iron in the brain, have you read anything on
(what looks like) dark brown iron blotches appearing externally on the
head and other places on the skin?
EddyJean
EddyJean
2011-02-12 07:12:49 UTC
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Re: Iron In Acetylcholinesterase

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Feb 9, 2011, 8:47pm (PST+3)
From: ***@gmail.com (Evelyn)
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:59:29 -0600, "Jim" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Has anyone ever-received a reply from Iron Justice? I wonder????????????
I
have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's 3 years ago and really enjoy this
support group but I wonder about this one?
Jim
Jim, you are right to wonder. We do have some trolls. Best to ignore
them.
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16917-4D2DE430-***@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
Hello Iron Justice:
You've reported on too much iron in the brain, have you read anything on
(what looks like) dark brown iron blotches appearing externally on the
head and other places on the skin?
EddyJean
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Trolls, Evelyn the controller says? It takes one to know one folks.
Bohgosity BumaskiL
2011-09-03 03:16:19 UTC
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On 2011-02-12 12:12 AM, EddyJean wrote:
(...)
Post by EddyJean
Trolls, Evelyn the controller says? It takes one to know one folks.
(...)

Being a troll makes knowing a troll easier. It is not required.

EddyJean
2011-02-12 07:02:41 UTC
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Re: Iron In Acetylcholinesterase

Group: alt.support.alzheimers Date: Wed, Feb 9, 2011, 5:59pm (PST+2)
From: ***@bellsouth.net (Jim)
Has anyone ever-received a reply from Iron Justice? I wonder????????????
I
have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's 3 years ago and really enjoy this
support group but I wonder about this one?
Jim
"EddyJean" <***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:16917-4D2DE430-***@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
Hello Iron Justice:
You've reported on too much iron in the brain, have you read anything on
(what looks like) dark brown iron blotches appearing externally on the
head and other places on the skin?
EddyJean
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Well, Jim, if you've not experienced dark blotches on your skin,
consider yourself lucky. This is a progressive disease. If you don't
have skin problems today, who's to say you may not have it tomorrow?
By the way, this is not my theory but reported several years ago by Life
Extension Publications. When things go wrong internally, it often shows
up on the skin. You surely know that.
EddyJean
Bohgosity BumaskiL
2011-09-03 03:11:43 UTC
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Hello Iron Justice: You've reported on too much iron in the brain,
have you read anything on (what looks like) dark brown iron
blotches appearing externally on the head and other places on the
skin? EddyJean
That would be melanin, sometimes age spots, sometimes more like
freckles. One of the drugs in "Awakenings" (Lead: Robin Williams) was
L-DOPA. Phenylalanine converts to Tyrosine, which converts to Levodopa,
which converts to dopamine, which converts to norepinephrine, which
converts to epinephrine (more of a hormone than a neurotransmitter),
which converts to melanin.

Whoever Williams posed for agonized about the dose: Too much to get
psychotic symtoms; Too little for no activation.

A better picture of phenylalanine metabolism is on wikipedia, somewhere.

The substantia nigra part of the brain (nigra being a latin word for
black) contains a lot of melanin, so you can see that melanin might
function in brains as well as on skin. Correspondingly, if you
manipulate Tyrosine metabolism, you might get side-effects on skin.
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If life hands you melons, then you might be dyslexic.
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